Advisory Neighborhood
Commission 6B
Minutes of Regular
ANC Meeting
December 14, 2004
Commissioners Present:
Commissioners Absent: Daryl Snowden, David Sheldon, and
Chairperson
There was a quorum for
conducting business.
Adoption of Agenda
Chair Olson stated that she
had two (2) issues to be added under Planning and Zoning. She wants to add two (2) transportation
issues. The first is removal of a No Turn
on Red Sign at
Commissioner Jarboe stated
that he wanted to add 12th and
Commissioner Hill stated that
under Presentations that the DCMPD would not be making a presentation, but
would like to reschedule for next month.
Commissioner Glick asked the
Commissioners that all items to be voted on such as 5, 6, and transportation be
moved to before presentations.
Commissioner Jarboe stated
that he would oppose the recommendation on principal because he doesn’t think
the Commission wants to move things around, and at this point the Commission does
not have to necessary votes to take such action.
Commissioner Glick stated
that he just wanted it for the record that the Commission conducts business
first and presentations later.
Chair Olson stated that that
is something that needs to be taken up at the next Executive Committee meeting
as something to be done during 2005.
Commissioner Smith stated
that he wanted to add the removal of the Left Turn Only sign at
Commissioner Hill made the
motion that the Commissions adopt the Agenda as changed. Since Commissioner Glick motion was not
seconded, it will not be included. The
motion was seconded by Commissioner Cernich.
The vote was unanimous (6-1-0).
Community
Speakout
None
Community and Commission Announcements
Commissioner Jarboe provided
the Commissioner with an update on his testimony before the City Council
regarding the ANC’s issue on HazMat with the issue of tanker railcars. Carol Swartz had a roundtable it wasn’t a
hearing, because technically they were not testifying on Kathy Patterson’s bill
to ban the shipment of hazardous material.
Homeland Security Office also testified at the hearing and basically
stated that they were not going to tell them what they are going to do, and by
the way, they don’t mandate the requirements for rerouting, but to trust
them. Commissioner Jarboe stated that he
doesn’t think that is good enough and urge the Commissioners to get involved
and help push the issue. He also mentioned
that the ANC 2B at
Commissioner Jarboe mentioned
that Bill Vanden Toorn passed away Sunday night. Bill was in the past an ANC 6B
Commissioner. Of late, he was a reporter
for the Hill Rag. Commissioner Jarboe
made the motion that the ANC expresses its deep condolences at the lost of Bill
Vanden Toorn. The motion was seconded by
Commissioner Olson. The vote was
unanimous (7-0-0).
Chair Olson spoke to the
Commissioners for supporting her as chair over the last 2 years, and that she
appreciates all their support and confidence over the years, and that she had
learned a lot functioning in her capacity as chair.
Commissioner Smith also
thanked the community for an opportunity to serve them. He stated that he stepped into his role on
the Commission because he was interested in community work and wanted to
represent his community. He further
stated that he believes the work of ANC 6B in the future will be tremendous
because of the positive development on Capitol Hill and transportation
issues. He also stated that he too had
learned a great deal and was glad to serve.
He stated that he was confident that the new incoming Commissioner
Antonette Russell will do an outstanding job, because she is very actively
involved in the community and he looks forward to working with her.
Commissioner Campbell thanked
the community and commission, especially, with a number of personal issues
involving his son and mother-in-law. He
especially wanted to thank them for their confidence in him by reelecting him
to the Commission.
Commissioner Glick also
thanked the community for reelecting him to another term.
Commissioner Hill also
thanked the community.
Community Announcements
None
Presentations
DDOT –
No one was present to
represent DDOT
DCMPD – Citizen’s
Complaint Review
Cancelled and rescheduled for
next months meeting.
Planning and Zoning Committee
Benard Renard – 521 and
Commissioner Campbell
presented the Planning and Zoning Committee report regarding Mr. Benard
Renard’s application:
The applicant is seeking to
add a three story rear addition to
The building (519 11th) to
the other side of the proposed addition (519 11th) is the old funeral home that
occupies the entire lot with a solid brick wall along the property line with
521. Thus, there are no air and light
issues with respect to this neighbor.
The applicant met earlier
with the Committee and has had ongoing discussion with Historic Preservation
office staff. As a result, the height of
the addition has been reduced in order to ensure that it is not visible from
the front. The Committee appreciates the
applicant’s changes to address this concern.
However, the Committee has a
remaining concern over the mass of the rear addition, specifically with the
loss of open back yard space for both 521 and 523. With this addition to 521, the adjoining
building at 523 will lose a major portion of its open space. We note that the design of the rear of 523
has patio doors opening to this joint back yard. With the new addition, those doors will open
to the small dogleg between the buildings.
We suspect that the past
addition to 523 was approved because of the sharing of the lot with 521 – as
the combination of all structures on the lot (both houses, the shed and the
garage) are just within the permitted limits (62.6% lot occupancy). Taken separately, the half of the lot
occupied by 523 and garage is well over the permitted limits (at roughly 75%
lot occupancy. The applicant argues that
the addition would reduce the lot occupancy ratio and will bring the lot
occupancy in to conformity with 60% lot occupancy for 521, compared to existing
lot occupancy of 62.6% for the combined 521 and 523.
The Committee disagrees and
would point out that this is a case of comparing apples to oranges. The proposal will create one lot at 521 with
60% lot occupancy up (from the existing 47.8%) and one lot at 523 with 75% lot
occupancy (for combined lot occupancy of 66%).
Thus the proposal actually increases the total lot occupancy. If the applicant now wishes to have 521
considered separately, something needs to be done to bring 523 in to closer
compliance with zoning limits – especially with the rear yard requirements.
The Committee believes that
the issue of rear yard space for 523 can be mitigated by changes to the
existing garage. This structure is both
a parking garage and a workshop. Either
the size of the garage could reduced by 10 feet (which the applicant has stated
is feasible by eliminating the workshop area) or the garage could be eliminated
completely and replaced with an open parking pad, as will be done at 521. The Committee’s preference is for the
replacement of the garage with an open parking pad, as that will increase the
open space. However, the Committee would
be satisfied with either solution.
Thus, the Committee
recommends support for this application, contingent upon a reduction in size of
the existing garage at 523 or its replacement with an open parking pad.
The Committee also notes that
this case will come before the ANC again for a zoning variance. The above recommendations can be review again
at that time in the context of the needed zoning relief.
Chair Olson asked Mr. Renard
if he had any new additional information or comments regarding his
application.
Mr. Renard basically restated
what the P&Z Committee report stated regarding the size of the project and
the lot, and the need to reduce or replace the garage. One of his key points was that the new
addition will not be visible from the front of the property.
The Chair asked Mrs. Renard
if he heard what the Committee had recommended regarding his application with
its contingencies, which she read, and his response was yes.
The Chair asked for questions
from the audience. A gentleman from
After additional discussion
regarding the building height, Mr. Renard offered to meet with the questioner
to review his plans and answer any questions regarding his proposed changes.
Commissioner Glick made the
recommendation that Mr. Renard meet with the neighbors and review his plans and
get letters of support for his project and bring that to the BZA meeting.
Commissioner Campbell stated
that the main concern of the Committee was that this was one lot, and it was
being divided into 2 lots and their concerns was that they both shared a common
area, which was the backyard, creating a dogleg at 523. The solution was the reduction of the
workshop by 10 feet or removal of the garage and replaced with a pad.
With no additional
discussion, the Chair stated that the recommendation comes from the Committee
in the form of a motion, therefore no second is needed. She asked all in favor to raise their hands,
and the vote was unanimous (7-0-0).
Transportation:
Removal of No Turn on Red
at
The Chair stated this was her
project and anyone familiar with Results Gym, knows it has taken over the
neighborhood with parking and traffic problems.
This is not just with Results, but with the commuter traffic traveling
down
Commissioner Glick made the
motion to support the removal of the No Turn on Red Sign at
Addition of Crosswalk on
the north side of
The Chair stated that on
Commissioner Glick offered a
Friendly-Amendment to add Pedestrian Crosswalk signage.
Commissioner Cernich asked
the Chair if she wanted to request a Stop Sign at that location. She responded that there have not been any
accidents at the location, but there have been near misses involving
pedestrians, and she does not believe one would be granted based upon this fact.
Commissioner Campbell stated
that if the signage was the Lime Green type it would be hard to miss.
With no additional
discussion, the Friendly-Amendment was accepted by the Chair and the motion was
seconded by Commissioner Cernich. The
vote was unanimous (7-0-0).
Stoplight at
Commissioner Jarboe stated
that there are the Lime Green signs that are currently in place to protect
pedestrians but do not seem to be working.
He thought there would be pedestrian signage placed in the middle of the
street similar to the ones at Eastern Market, but the signs on either side, two
of which were place under trees, which makes it difficult to see. This location receives traffic from
Commissioner Smith asked if
there were lights in the District that operated based upon pedestrian traffic
rather than being timed. The response
was yes. Commissioner Campbell stated
that there are lights that when the crossing request (pushing of a button) is
made, within approximately 30 seconds the light will change to allow the
pedestrian to cross.
Commissioner Jarboe stated
that we would accept the idea of a pedestrian initiated push-button crossing as
a Friendly-Amendment.
Commissioner Campbell made
the Friendly-Amendment that the same traffic control measures be placed on the
north side of
Commissioner Jarboe made the
motion that a Pedestrian Push-Button Stop Sign be placed at 12ths and
Commissioner Cernich made the
comment that something needs to be done at 8th and E Street,
SE. He has walked out in front of cars
and they refuse to stop. The Chair
stated that this is one of the most horrible intersections and the District
Department of Transportation refused to give the ANC a stop sign at that
location.
Removal of Left Turn
Signage at 17th (heading north) and
Commissioner Smith stated
that the signage at 17th and
Commissioner Hill stated that
he would also like to add the removal of the Left Turn sign at Potomac Ave, SE,
going south on 17th Street because very few people use that lane,
thus there is only one straight through lane and the traffic could use both
lanes to go straight ahead on 17th Street, which would reduce
traffic congestion.
Commissioner Smith stated
that the ANC did make the request to place the No Left Turn Signal heading
north on
Commissioner Smith stated
that the removal of the No Left Turn at Potomac would help reduce the alley
traffic due to people wanting to make a left turn on
Commissioner Smith’s motion
is that a sign notifying traffic that there is a Left Turn Only Lane at
Community Speakout (late addition)
The Chair stated that she was
adding this to allow the community to speakout about the shooting in the area
of
The person from the community
who lives at
A member of the DCMPD was
present and he stated that the stats indicate that crime in the area is
actually on the decline. They are
actively working to police the area.
However, more officers in the area may not have prevented that
particular crime. He also stated that
there is a police officer who actually lives in the area where the shooting
occurred. In fact, from the officers
back window you could see the crime location.
The resident asked about
improving outreach from the DCMPD. The
office suggested that the resident attend PSA meetings and they will be provided
with a lot of information regarding their area and the policing efforts being
put forth for them, and how they can assist.
He provided the resident with the dates and times of the next 2 meetings. He also gave out the number to call for PSA
information (202) 727-1000.
ABC Committee
Liquor License Renewals:
Bread & Chocolate, Inc.,
App. No. 36469, License # 26694, Class – DR 01
Committee Chairman,
Commissioner Cernich stated that Bread & Chocolate was applying for the
renewal of their Liquor License. No one
was present from the establishment.
Commissioner Cernich asked if
anyone from the community had any comment regarding the renewal of their
license. A person from the community
stated that he thought the establishment was very responsible in the community. Another person voiced a positive support for
the establishment.
Commissioner Jarboe stated
that the ANC has a Voluntary Agreement that they do not serve liquor on the
patio.
Commission Cernich moved that
the Commission not oppose the renewal of Bread and Chocolate’s renewal of their
liquor license. Commissioner Jarboe
seconded the motion. The vote was
unanimous (7-0-0).
Committee reports and announcements
None
DDOT Presentation:
The Chair announced that
since DDOT has arrived, we will revisit the presentation portion of the Agenda.
The representatives of the
Kenilworth Avenue Corridor Study stated that their primary focus was on
At this point Allen Miller
introduced himself as the Engineer for the Anacostia Waterfront Initiative from
the DDOT and Tom ????? from SDB is the Consult on the Study and Steve Lee is
from the Public Affairs and Out Reach Consult on the study.
Mr. Miller stressed that they
do not have any preconceived notions about anything. They are looking to get input on the ANCs and
the communities on both sides of the river to develop a process to develop the
projects. What should come out of this
is a list of projects which will become their program at DDOT, and then will go
back to see what the environmental analysis tells them and then they will begin
the design of the projects. This is the
ground floor of the project, so everything is on the table.
Commissioner Glick stated
that he hears what Mr. Miller is saying about them being willing to listen to what the ANCs and Community Leaders
have to say, but in the various studies such as Reservation 13, and the need
for traffic signs in their community, only to be told no.
Commissioner Smith and
several other Commissioners expressed their frustrations with dealing with
various studies and things from the Council in which their input is invited
only to have it totally ignored and that this is very troubling.
The representative stated
that they will be looking at the bridge from traffic modeling and analysis
points of view. The additional bridge
crossing at
Commissioner Smith asked the
presenters if they are talking about extending East Capitol because the ANC has
been told in the past that that was not feasible. The representative appeared not to be
familiar with this. However, his
associate stated that he didn’t necessary agree with the prior conclusions
regarding this issue.
The representative stated the
reason they are looking at this is because it is part of the Framework Plan for
the Anacostia Waterfront Initiative. They
want to make the river much more accessible and to bring people across
Commissioner Jarboe stated
that what really concerns him is that there appears to have been several
piece-meal studies done that do not appear to take into consideration the total
impact on traffic movement in this area.
Each time the Commission reviews a transportation study, the Commission
is always told that what ever decision is made, it will not have a negative
impact on our community, but it always seem to change when a new study is
presented. Commissioner Jarboe stated
that on numerous occasions the Commission has been told that certain traffic
situations would not occur only to find that in fact they did. He, like the other Commissioners, are
concerned that in the end, the same thing will happen again with this project,
and wants some type of assurances that it will not happen. The Commission is concerned with “you build
it, and they will come” problem with the various proposed transportation plans
being studied (proposed) and their negative impact on its citizens.
Commissioner Campbell
expressed his frustration with the fact that seldom do the traffic people who
propose the various traffic revisions, take time to interview the citizens in
the proposed impacted area as to their feelings regarding any potential
negative or positive outcomes, if the proposed changes are made. In the end, it will be the people of ANC 6B
that will be negatively impacted, if our citizens’ views are not taken into
consideration.
Commissioner Glick stated
that as long as he has been on the Commission that they have voted consistently
on not having a bridge on Mass. Avenue., but the planners seem to always come
back with bridge designed to carry vehicles instead of the neighborhood’s
desire to have pedestrian traffic only.
Commissioner Smith stated
that a lot of people traveling north on 17th street using the Barney
Circle want to head north on 295, but in fact lot of people want to go west on
East Capitol Street but they can’t. He
pointed out that it seems that all of these studies are done independently and
most importantly, they do not get resident input, and the studies are not
coordinated to see the real impact on each neighborhood, and we like to see
this changed.
After more discussion about
traffic studies, patterns, counts, and pedestrian safety, the representatives
assured the commissioner that their mission was to secure ANC and neighborhood
input on any proposed changes to ensure the best outcome. It was further stated that there is no silver
bullet solution to the traffic problems facing the District, and it will take
all interested parties working together to get a workable solution.
Someone from the community
asked if their studies take into consideration the new traffic when baseball is
in RFK Stadium and the new stadium, and the impact on the neighborhood. The representative stated that their studies
indicates that most of the people who travel to the stadium will use public
transportation, thus they do not see a large impact on local traffic.
A member of the community
stated that their studies need to take into consideration whether or not there
are legal implications regarding property and right-of-way associated with the
various plans.
Commissioner Smith stated
that it is his feeling that they are doing things backwards. The studies are being done on a
departmentalized fashion, then you are going to develop a comprehensive plan,
when in fact, the comprehensive plan should be the starting point that sets the
goals for the project and the departmental plans are developed as subsets of
the master plan to accomplish (implement) the comprehensive plan. This approach will allow and encourage
greater neighborhood input.
The representatives reported
that their DDOT and Office of Planning websites can provide additional
information on what is planned. They
stressed that this was their first level meeting and they will be conducting
many more and will return the ANC to discuss and receive its input. They anticipate a kickoff of the project
sometime during the later part of January.
Adjournment
There was no further business
and Commissioner Hill made the motion that the meeting be adjourned until its
next meeting date of January 11, 2005.
The motion was seconded, and the vote was 7 to 0.
Meeting Adjourned.
Prepared by Bert Randolph
Attested: